Palin madness

I thought I would be satisfied reducing my thoughts on this much-loved subject to a few comments left on my prior post.  I was wrong.  There seems to be no sating my interest in this story.  So, let’s have at it.

When it was first leaked that Sarah Palin was McCain’s choice for the vice-presidency, I admit I said, “Who?”  And now, just a few days later, I have read more articles on Sarah Palin than I have ever read on McCain, Obama or Biden.  Probably even more than putting the latter three altogether.  I’m not exactly proud of this feat, but it is the truth.  A VP candidate from Alaska with only 20 months of experience as governor, years more as mayor of a 9,000 peeped town, and five children in this modern age.  I mean, it makes one want to read a thing or two about who this lady is.  And then throw in that her 17-year old daughter, Bristol, is five months pregnant and I challenge even the most reasoned among us not to do some google searching.

So, this is what I’ve learned.  Sarah was runner-up to being Miss Alaska, instead having to walk away from the pageant earning only the Miss Congeniality award; she went to the University of Idaho; she married Todd Palin when she was about a month preggers with Track; Track has joined the army; she had four other kids, including one named Trig with Down Syndrome, and one named Bristol who’s about to have a baby of her own; she was mayor of her hometown (having moved there when she was a few months old) for many years and said-town has a population of about 9,000; she hired a lobbying firm that led the town to millions and millions of bucks in federal earmarks; she supported that bridge until Congress only half funded it; she is super prolife; her pastor or reverend or whatever he is is *&^$#*&^%#@ crazy and somehow has gotten away with painting Jesus as a war-monger and risking his tax-exempt status by telling his flock that they would be hell-bound were they to vote Kerry/Edwards; she may have fired a man who refused to fire her ex-brother-in-law; she fired the police chief and the head librarian of Wasilla when she became mayor, citing as a reason their lack of loyalty to her; she is running for vice president of the United States.

I guess more than worrying about Sarah Palin, this makes me worry about McCain.  I know the pundits all say this was his reaction to hearing that he could not put Lieberman on his ticket, but it has to be more than that.  Doesn’t it?  Is he that brash?  It also seems to have placated the Christian conservative base that we all love to talk about.  But are they that simple-minded that the addition of Palin has satisfied them?  Maybe.  I guess we’ll see.

After all this, the election is just two months away.  I can’t wait to see what’s next.      

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77 Responses to “Palin madness”


  1. 1 Kristin September 3, 2008 at 10:59 am

    I guess in the end it just makes me worry about McCain too. What the *%#$? I mean, she is definitely all these things that we’ve all read that go against what so many of us believe and want from our government. Her stances, alone, on sex-education and no abortion never ever no matter what are simply abhorrent.

    But she didn’t seek this nomination. McCain found her. Some McCain operative (hmmm…maybe with the initials KR…?) knew about her and put her in their back pocket until Hillary lost the primaries and then Voila! Look what I found! A hockey mom (5 kids!!), from a red outsider state that has oil, a crazy Christian, who will probably be considered hot by repressed GOP standards (as Jon Stewart said – she looks like the naughty librarian from a Skinamax movie), and bonus!, we can spin the fact that her daughter is pregnant by coupling it with the fact that Palin just had a Down’s baby in order to show how very “pro-life” she is. Puh-lease.

    Compare that to the measured, solid choice of Joe Biden for VP. I know, I’m totally blindly partisan, but I don’t care. We’ve been kicked around for eight #$%& long years and there’s no time to be polite to these effing people anymore.

    I honestly think JMc is screwed, but if for some reason they win, I seriously, seriously don’t know what I’ll do.

  2. 2 Sara H September 3, 2008 at 11:00 am

    OK, at the risk of getting myself into major trouble here….

    Exactly what is it that is so troubling?

    OK, so her town was only 9,000. You’re the retiring CEO of your company – choose your successor between these two: a small business owner, or a legislator (legislators being those people whose decisions have efficacy only if made with a bunch of other people). Is McCain completely off his rocker? I don’t think so – seems like a reasonable choice.

    OK, so she got a bunch of federal earmarks. Every. Single. Politician. is interested in earmarks. R or D (except maybe a very, very limited few, but my point is it definitely is a widespread problem that goes across the aisle). Every single state government is constantly trying to figure out how to get a bigger piece of the federal pie. It’s practically in the state politician job description. Wrong? Maybe. She’s seen as an ethical reformer in her own state (and brought down people in her own party! I like that). I’ll wait to see the outcome of the investigations on the firings. She seems willing enough to cooperate with them.

    OK, so she’s pro-life. Agree or disagree with that one, but I don’t think it makes her a particularly bad person or bad governor. I really think reasonable people can disagree on that one, and that choosing to support or not support a candidate on that basis is fine and defensible. (More troubling to me – I still can’t figure out how you reconcile a pro-life stance and support of the death penalty. Baffling to me.)

    Crazy pastor? Hello, Obama!

    20 months of Governor experience. Obama joined the Senate in January of 2005. 24 months later, he was running for president (officially – it probably started waaaay before that).

    I’m just sayin’. I’m not opposed to criticisms, but I’m just not sure that the ones being aimed at Palin are not rebuttable.

  3. 3 kateandgracie September 3, 2008 at 11:10 am

    Well, maybe so. And there’s no getting into troubs. We’re reasonable people and we can have different positions and discuss this stuff and hear each other out. That’s what’s great about it! At least I hope that’s what’s great about it…

    Anyway, I think that a US senator is a vastly different experience than being a governor of a state with a very low population. And I think that with very little experience (though Obamamama was in the State legislature awhile no?), I’d rather have my pres/VP with some national/international experience.

    But that aside, I think that a lot of the criticisms being lobbed at Palin are precisely because of the ones that Obamamama faced. For example, the pastor. Exactly why I put that in there, since it was made a big deal of for him (which I think it is right to do, actually), it should be noted for her, as well. And I don’t have an issue with the earmarks, I have an issue with McCain — who has professed his absolute hatred for earmarks — picking someone who achieved millions more in earmarks for her tiny town than towns ten times the size. Again, it makes me confused about what it is he liked about her.

    And I agree that taking on the old guard is something kinda neat and maybe mavericky about her. But there are other things that I can’t figure out — like she loves Ted Stevens, she distances herself from Ted Stevens, she favors him again.

    And it’s not so much that the prolife thing bothers me, though it’s obviously a position I do not share. It’s that that seems to sort of be her only real position. And I don’t think that’s enough of a platform for a national ticket.

  4. 4 Kristin September 3, 2008 at 11:23 am

    I’m talking about ideology, not experience. I’m talking about pandering to a vote that you’re not going to get and insulting many, many woman in the process. I’m talking about picking someone with a crazy pastor and who’s husband was the member of a fringe political party, and then telling us we better not criticize her about it because then we’re being mean big bullies, when they picked apart Obama and Wright for weeks and weeks and weeks, and would NOT shut up about BO having lunch with a member of the Weather Underground one time.

    I’m talking about them trying to tell us that family is off limits when they are the ones (McCain specifically) who so highly insulted Chelsea Clinton years ago, and who tried to tell Barack Obama what his OWN grandmother would think of something he said.

    I’m talking about the Republican political machine using the idea of progress to slap us in the face.

    As I said, I don’t care anymore how partisan I sound. They make me sick. I need a gd break, and I want them out of my life.

  5. 6 Sara H September 3, 2008 at 11:31 am

    I’d agree with you on the Senate stuff if it seemed like Obama had done much in the Senate.

    I’ll be interested to see what she has to say about the pastor – I guess my point is, if the Dems can get around the pastor thing by allowing Obama to “renounce” (after, I might add, Hillary cornered him in a debate and that interview the pastor gave that really made Obama mad), then Palin should have an opportunity to respond also (and be given similar leeway).

    I figure for McCain, picking a veep is probably just like me picking a pres – you can’t agree on everything, and in the grand scheme of what powers the veep has, her ability to earmark anything is limited (unless, of course she becomes pres, and I’ll give you that point). And probably, he had to do something that was a calculated campaign choice – anyone would have done the same thing. She brings a lot of what he needs to the table. I don’t think it’s irrational or old-guy crazy. Old guy canny, I would say.

    I do agree, that because of her relative obscurity and such, her positions on things have yet to come to light and for all I know I could totally hate her. I personally think national security is a huge, huge issue and guides a lot of my voting though, and therefore I need to hear more from her. Bring on the debates! Let’s hear it!

  6. 7 kateandgracie September 3, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Oh, I don’t think it’s an irrational choice. Just odd. But maybe it’ll turn out to be genius. It seems that the real worry was the Christian conservatives — that perhaps they wouldn’t turn out to vote as they had in the past unless McCain gave them something. So, it makes sense to me on that ground.

    I guess what I think is so odd is how little time it appears went into making this choice. By all accounts that I have read, which of course could be mistaken, this choice was made just a couple of days before it was announced. And that Palin wasn’t subject to the same sort of vetting (I hate that word) that others who had been considered were. This, of course, is not her fault. I think, though, that it’s strange in this day of intense scrutiny on where candidates take their dry cleaning, that more attention wasn’t aimed at Palin before she was picked. I think that’s the part that troubles me the most.

  7. 8 Sara H September 3, 2008 at 11:43 am

    Well, McCain is of that age of people who are very, very trusting. 🙂

  8. 9 Heather September 3, 2008 at 11:49 am

    I read one article arguing that being a governor is better preparation for being president than a senator, as you are truly in change of running your own “little country,” and that the most effective presisdents were governors. I don’t really know that much about the history of the presidency, but it makes more sense to me when you’re talking about bigger states, like California. or texas. and that governor from texas has done a bang-up job. i guess the governor from arkansas did alright. and maybe georgia.

    Whether being a governor or senator gives you more experience to be able to be a president is hard to say. It’s important to be the sole leader of something, but also to have national and international experience. What I don’t understand is that mccain was attacking obama for being inexperienced, which is somewhat valid, and now it seems that he can’t attack him for that any longer. So, it’s seems a weird pick. Although at least the media is saying that it really has mobilized the”christian conservatives.”

    Although I am annoyed that she is pro-life, what more annoys me is that she is anti contraception.

    Also, and this probably is unimportant and persnickety, but one other thing I heard: she didn’t support her step=mother-in-law to be her successor as mayor, and her step-mother-in-law isn’t supporting her candidacy. Obviously, they have different political views, so it’s fine to not support each other, but you’d think it’d be private. but, relationships with mothers-in-law can be tough.

  9. 10 kateandgracie September 3, 2008 at 11:49 am

    Well, in any event, there’s a lot more fun to be had discussing it than there would be had he picked, say, Tom Ridge.

  10. 11 kateandgracie September 3, 2008 at 11:52 am

    Yeah, I didn’t know how to work in the stepmother-in-law weirdness.

    And I agree that being governor can certainly be excellent experience for being president and most preses weren’t senators, but guvs. But when thrust onto the national stage, and having to go out and debate Joe Biden, I’d think a little foreign policy know-how would help. Again, not her fault, I guess, but it’s a little scary to hear her say, “I don’t really know much about Iraq.” I give her props for honesty.

  11. 12 Heather September 3, 2008 at 11:52 am

    And i also do not like the word vetting.

  12. 13 kateandgracie September 3, 2008 at 11:53 am

    Doesn’t it seem like vetting is America’s newest, most popular word? I feel like it came out of nowhere and seduced every journalist in the country.

  13. 14 Sara H September 3, 2008 at 11:56 am

    It’s the new hanging chad.

  14. 15 kateandgracie September 3, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    Indeed.

  15. 16 kateandgracie September 3, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    In what would seem an impossible feat, I just read yet another article on this subject. I want to note that I think it’s kinda weird that the prochoice/prolife position even comes up in mayoral politics. The articles make it seem as though she did not support her stepmother’s run for mayor because (a) she wasn’t Republican enough and (b) she’s prochoice. What does a mayor have to say about reproductive choice? Odd, no?

  16. 17 Sara H September 3, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    And here come the photos of McCain shaking Levi’s hand! Boy, this election just gets weirder and weirder.

    Kate, if you managed to keep yourself to just one additional article, you’re

  17. 18 Sara H September 3, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    Oops. Better than me, I keep reading and reading…

  18. 19 rose September 3, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    here is my two cents about palin, et al.
    at this point–big or small–i have not found one single thing on which we agree.
    She is prolife.
    She is pro NRA and anti gun regulation.
    She is for abstinence only education (we see how well that worked for both herself and her daughter).
    She is a-ok with teaching creatinism in schools.
    She is pro drilling in Alaska (which totally baffles me..)
    The thing that is bothering me so much right now though is that these issues are not really relevant right now (or at least they shouldn’t be). We have bigger things to handle than the Right’s so called “moral positions” (which are not really moral at all and I shouldn’t have even used those words) such as the economy, global warming, the war/s. I don’t think anyone at the RNC has been touching on anything even remotely related to reality of everyday people. I’m with Kristin—I’m just too *&%$% pissed off to be worried about being polite and nice about these things. The Republican party has totally screwed this country in ways we don’t even know and they get up on their high horse and act like they are for “Country First” (their RNC slogan). It’s just all BS and it’s so frustrating to hear that people buy into it.

  19. 20 Kristin September 3, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Yes Rose!

    Oh man this is getting me more and more heated.

  20. 21 kateandgracie September 3, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    You’re right, Sara, I confess: I can’t stop reading. Has anyone read about how Levi’s mom won’t say if he has graduated or not? Huffington Post says that he’s not listed as a student at the school this year, and his mom says he’s not enrolled, but that any other information will have to come from him. Um, weird.

  21. 22 Kristin September 3, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    Anyone see that picture of McCain and Levi meeting? Fascinating. Levi looks kind of like Joaquin Phoenix, no?

  22. 23 kateandgracie September 3, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    He does a bit! Looks much better on that Minneapolis tarmac than in that hockey pic.

  23. 24 rose September 3, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    hahah! i just read a quote that diddy said….pretty darn funny…
    “John you are bugging the f- you. I don’t even understand what planet you’re on now. This is the job to be the leader of the free world. No disrespect, I love ya, I want you to live to 110, but what if, God forbid, you got a running mate, you become President. Alaska? ALASKA? ALASKA? ALASKA? Come on, man. I don’t even know if there are any black people in Alaska. John, come on. Sarah [Palin]? What in the hell? ALASKA? You’re bugging the f- out. Sarah Palin, you ain’t ready to be vice president. ALASKA MOTHERF–ER? What is the reality in Alaska? There aren’t even any crackheads in Alaska. There aren’t no black people in Alaska.”

  24. 25 Sara H September 3, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Allrighty then, I guess I’m immoral because I’m pro-life.

    I agree, there should be focus on the issues that are most relevant to us right now (such as the economy and the war). I don’t see anyone on either side focusing on anything other than some of the ridiculous stuff (Kos, anyone? What was THAT? and all this vetting nonsense courtesy of the national media, sheesh. And sure, the R’s are certainly yapping a lot about all the family values stuff too).

    Personally, as I’ve said, I’m waiting for the debates to see how Palin is really going to stack up on the critical issues, since obviously in the meantime folks (on both sides, methinks) are going to keep talking about whether she should be running at all, whether she’s a bad parent, and how she cooks her mooseburgers.

    Definitely, let’s call her out on her limited national experience and hear what she has to say on the economy and the war.

    Um, I have not heard anything about this Levi and high school thing. I guess I don’t have a good or bad feeling on whether he graduated or not, but the handling of it sounds wackadoodle. (Thanks, Suede!) I’m starting to wonder what life is really like in Alaska….

  25. 26 Sara H September 3, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Sorry, that last post was more snippy than I intended. I am sure we are talking about immoral positions, not immoral people, and I got overly offended.

    Although I still don’t think my position is immoral. 🙂

  26. 27 rose September 3, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    I certainly did not say you were immoral and I don’t think being pro-life makes you immoral. We are much more complicated than all that. I am really frustrated with the way these social issues are treated though. For instance, I think my family values are actually much more family oriented then say someone who thinks gay people should not allow to be married/raise kids/have equal rights. It’s the judgement, the hypocrisy…it’s just all too much. You live your life the way in which you think is correct—leave other people alone. What happened to the days when Republicans were all about no regulation? They want to regulate everyone now!

  27. 28 rose September 3, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    I don’t mean “you” as in “sara h”. I just mean the generic “you”.

  28. 29 Sara H September 3, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Kate, your blog is rockin’ like Althouse’s today!

    I do find that an odd thing about Republicans – you can’t be a complete libertarian and a social conservative. Conflicting instincts. I guess I’m the same way… I want my regulation on some things, and not on others (ie gay marriage… although actually I guess in that case regulation is needed to ensure equality….). Libertarians impress me, sort of – you have to be really committed to that idea to be willing to deal with the consequences.

  29. 30 Gretchen September 3, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Good golly! I miss checking the blog for one day and we have 28 posts on a semi-new topic? It makes a girl’s head spin . . .

    As for me, I plan to get home early from a meeting to watch Sarah . . . bring on the popcorn!!

  30. 31 Gretchen September 4, 2008 at 3:36 am

    OK, thoughts on the RNC last night? I was SO turned off . . . I actually enjoyed Fred Thompson the night before . . . didn’t agree with him, but his tone and criticisms didn’t offend me — they amused me.

    I thought Sarah Palin’s delivery was strong and she came out swinging (and I did like the northern Canadian/Wisconsin-type accent), but I was so turned off by her divisive, mocking tone and constant jabs. And don’t even get me started on Rudy . . . that was just ugly.

    Also, I HATE the way the role of community organizer was made into a big joke by both . . . made for a cheap laugh but is so disrespectful to so many people who are genuinely trying to make a difference in their communities . . .

    Just my two cents . . .

  31. 32 Gretchen September 4, 2008 at 4:14 am

    And what about all those “hottie” pins worn by the delegates? Did you see the “Hottest VP, Coolest State” one?

  32. 33 rose September 4, 2008 at 8:32 am

    I think Palin is a really good speaker.
    I think that she probably won or at least intrigued quite a few ppl with her speech. She certainly showed that she is comfortable in this arena.
    Gretchen-I was also turned off by the condescension towards the community organizer role. This coming from someone running with her image of a pta/hockey mom!
    I just thought she was pretty sarcastic and she didn’t actually have a lot of substance. Once again the economy, which is the biggest issue according to the polls, wasn’t mentioned much at all.
    She is proving though that this will continue to get really really interesting…
    I didn’t see the pins!

  33. 34 Kristin September 4, 2008 at 9:37 am

    I am still processing my anger, mostly at Rudy Guiliani. But I am also still processing my anger at him from 2004, so maybe I need to just let that go. Something I’ll think about.

    Palin? Well, she blew them away, that was apparent. Call me crazy, but I was just distracted by counting how many people held the baby. And Levi looking like he didn’t know whether to laugh or cry.

  34. 35 kateandgracie September 4, 2008 at 9:54 am

    I admit I didn’t watch it — it’s the US Open! But I am reading the speech now. I think the part about the styrofoam columns is funny. Hee hee. Those were a bit weird.

  35. 36 Sara H September 4, 2008 at 9:59 am

    Obvs, I really enjoyed the speech. Agreed, though, not much substance, although I think these speeches aren’t meant to be substantial, the veeps are meant to be on the attack.

    My favorite part, though (and maybe you only got to see this if you were watching NBC), was when the little girl was holding the baby, and she was smoothing/caressing the baby’s hair, and it was so cute, until she totally licked her entire palm and then continued to smooth the baby’s hair. Like your mom would if you had a cowlick. That was almost funnier than the line about Obama’s giant styrofoam columns.

  36. 37 kateandgracie September 4, 2008 at 10:07 am

    Oh, I wish I had seen that. Maybe it’s on YouTube.

    I will say this: those Republicans really rally behind their guy’s choice.

  37. 38 Kristin September 4, 2008 at 10:11 am

    The posturing with the baby was gross, IMO. Palin’s attack lines were either completely untrue, mostly untrue, or at the very least just plain condescending. I mean who criticizes community organizing and gets applause lines? So gross.

  38. 39 G September 4, 2008 at 10:27 am

    I haven’t seen anything but clips of her speech because I was trying to have a semblance of a life last night, but I think we (Dems) are fools to underestimate her and the excitement she is generating in the Repub party.

    As a person who voted for “experience” and corridors of power (which lost, big time) in the primary (can I have my money back?), I think that our attacks on the outsider Palin are going to sound hollow to all of middle america.

    Americans love outsiders– I mean what does the governor of Arkansas know about foreign policy? (a bit different no doubt, and a rhodes scholar)

    And then I go back to the amazing mrs pritchard, (yes it’s a dumb tv show) who turned the establishment upside down bcause she spoke to where people lived. I know I keep harping on that but I see us making the same mistakes that the Tories and Labour made in that show.

    We absolutely can’t underestimate her. We do so at our peril. If we treat her with disrespect (i.e. P.Diddy or whatever he calls himself now) it will only come back to bite us in the ass… what were Hillary’s approval ratings after she cried in New Hampshire b/c the boys were picking on her? She won.

    Let’s not let history (even fictional history, like mrs pritchard) repeat itself!

  39. 40 kateandgracie September 4, 2008 at 10:30 am

    Well, I don’t think there’s a chance of underestimating her, really, with all this attention she’s getting (even on this blog!). And I don’t think it’s that she’s a governor that makes her knowledge on foreign affairs scant, it seems to be simply her. Her, “I haven’t really followed Iraq”-type statements. But, maybe she’s a quick learner. She certainly has energized and, it seems, united the party.

  40. 41 Sara H September 4, 2008 at 10:39 am

    I did think it was interesting how big a role the family played in the speech (how can you say hands off but then have them be such a big part?), but then I went back and read Biden’s speech, and he too had an entire section about his family and pointed them out, and then NBC mentioned families come on stage at the end. Must be an introduction tradition.

    Energized, indeed! I’ll be interested to see if McCain gets the level of applause at the beginning of his speech tonight that she did last night.

  41. 42 Gretchen September 4, 2008 at 11:22 am

    I was also distracted by how many people were holding the baby and wondering if the baby would spit up on Cindy’s lime dress — I thought it was a bold move on her part without a burp cloth!

  42. 43 rose September 4, 2008 at 11:25 am

    G–I definitely agree with most everything you say except that I actually don’t think Diddy was underestimating her at all. I think that he is saying–how could someone from a small town in Alaska (who has never been outside of the country no less) understand our struggles related to race, our school systems, etc.

  43. 44 Kristin September 4, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    OK, someone I work with just proposed that they drugged the baby last night as to make him more amenable to being passed around. I about lost it when she said this so I wanted to share.

  44. 45 Gretchen September 4, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    Nice . . . has she been around babies? When my son was that age, we could go to outdoor concerts at night because he’d fall fast asleep in the stroller and be out for the night . . . we could have passed him around the crowd and he wouldn’t have noticed!

  45. 47 Sara H September 4, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    Kate, the baby head smoothing incident is, indeed, on youtube (and can be found via althouse).

    I do agree, bold move by Cindy McCain to risk baby spitup or even just general drooling on the shockingly green dress! Poor baby was probably pretty exhausted from the travel doing a lot of crying on the plane.

  46. 48 Heather September 4, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    I know that babies are sound sleepers, but that baby did look a little listless. sorry. that was probably inappropriate. it was funny when piper (?) licked her palm and patted his head.

    She was a good speaker for the part i heard–i also was watching some of the open–but i did think her criticisms were pretty harsh. of course, they are supposed to be that way.

    did anyone see the daily show last night? it had great clips of the hypocrisy, or at least double-speak, of the republicans, namely karl rove (shocking!), Joe Lieberman (who knew?), and McCain’s economic advisor. i know that that exists in all politics, but it just seems that people buy it more when it comes from the right, which is frustrating.

  47. 49 kateandgracie September 5, 2008 at 10:13 am

    I only watched a little last night (US Open, again), but holy boring speaker McCain. This has nothing to do with substance, only tone — but I thought he’d be able to lull me to sleep in Cindy’s arms.

  48. 50 Gretchen September 5, 2008 at 10:21 am

    I had to go to sleep — too long. Speaking of Cindy, how does she keep that pleasant demeanor up — every time the camera is on her, she has the perfect, pleasant, lady-like, modest, yet proud expression . . . ALWAYS! I can do that for 30 seconds . . . does she practice or does it come natural??

  49. 51 Sara H September 5, 2008 at 10:39 am

    Total snoozefest. I almost felt bad for him, it was so painfully obvious that he was reading the teleprompter (poorly), when Palin gave the “what teleprompter?” speech. I think I barely made it to the end – had to finish watching the recorded PR after, too!

    Is Cindy wearing those bright, bright outfits so it’s easy to see where she is in the crowd – she’s helping the speakers find the family area?

  50. 52 Kristin September 5, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Oooh. I thought PR was pretty good this week! Love that DVF.

  51. 53 Gretchen September 5, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    Sara – I thought about the reason for the bright outfits too, and at the risk of sounding catty (and I really don’t mean it that way!), I think she needs to in order to avoid looking washed out with that bleached blonde hair . . . can you imagine her in a cream colored suit — she’d be one blur! Or looking pale as can be against a dark suit . . . just a thought . . .

    PR! I will actually miss Stella — I like her defiant spirit and it cracks me up that her boyfriend’s name is Ratbones.

  52. 54 Kristin September 5, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    You can sound catty! I won’t tell. 😉

    Hee hee just kidding sort of.

    And I know what you mean about Stella. She kind of grew on me, although not her style of course. And I hate to admit it but for some weird reason Suede is growing on me. I still think Leeanne, Kenley and Korto, should be the top three.

  53. 55 Gretchen September 5, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    I think Jerrell is my favorite personality-wise. I agree with you on the top three, but Kenley’s attitude gets on my nerves so I just can’t root for her. Leeanne and Korto are so unassuming compared to her . . . I like Kenley’s sense of personal style though.

  54. 56 Sara H September 5, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    Cindy would look ok in tan, I think, but black does sound pretty scary.

    Where is leanne coming from all the sudden? That dress from this week was beautiful. Totally agree on Korto, she managed to do something great every time. I know Terri is boring, but she does know how to make some nice pants.

    And for some reason, I don’t hate Suede as much as I did any more either – he seems to have toned it down (or he’s being edited that way – maybe the producers realized people are annoyed with this cast). Not such a great designer, comparatively speaking, though, that Suede.

  55. 57 Kristin September 5, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    Oh, I forgot about Jerrell! I like him too.

  56. 58 Sarayu September 8, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    You know I have to say, I started liking Suede more this episode too. My theory goes to back to the whole over-confident, catty group energy thing. Suede was one of the few who actually admitted that he was a little nervous about his dress because DVF would clearly be very selective. And even when he was in the spotlight, he didn’t talk too much in defense of Michael Kors’ comment, he just said quietly, “I don’t think it’s that bad.” I thought it was kind of sweet. Kenley, on the other hand, who I was rooting for since she was so emotional and passionate about it, lost me. When she was talking and she said, “…and I think I pretty much nailed it, don’t you?” WHAT? Who talks like that? I mean, I know she was nervous and all, but shut up. Her dress was cute, but Leanne’s was definitely a stunner.

    I like Jerrell’s personality because he doesn’t get as caught up in the cattiness of it all. He’s just doing his thing and having fun. I am done with Joe, though. He’s just so passive-aggressive and defensive. I think he and Keith were the same person, from different towns.

    And yes, I will miss Stella too. She’s just too funny for reality. She’s such a character. She actually left saying, “My ego was too big for this show anyway.” You can’t write stuff that good.

  57. 59 kateandgracie September 8, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    I’m so behind on the runway. I’m happy to hear, though, that Leanne’s doning well because I’ve liked her since the beginning. I can’t help it — sometimes I like mousy.

    And everyone take note — tomorrow’s Kristin’s birthday, so be nice!

  58. 60 kateandgracie September 8, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    I thought this was a good article.

  59. 63 sara h September 8, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Happy Birthday Kristin!

  60. 64 kateandgracie September 9, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    Happy birthday Kristin, indeed! Does anyone else have the feeling that Sarah Palin is holed up in some crappy hotel with McCain aides quizzing her around the clock on Putin, Karzai and Ahmadinejad?

  61. 65 Sara H September 9, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    I’d say that’s a pretty good bet.

    Breastfeeding or something, but no doubt learning the global map (I’ll assume she at least knows some stuff about Russia).

  62. 66 Gretchen September 10, 2008 at 8:37 am

    I wish Obama hadn’t made that “pig in lipstick” comment . . . did they truly not know how that would come across? Once again, the focus is not on the issues . . .

  63. 67 Kristin September 10, 2008 at 9:17 am

    For the record, McCain used the “pig in lipstick” comment about Hillary during the primaries.
    (Also, if you listen to the comment in context Obama is using it to talk about a policy issue, definitely not Palin herself).

    Apparently it is an expression? Not one I’ve ever heard, but a female advisor of McCain’s also used it as the title of her memoir.
    I know it ties to Palin’s comment about lipstick in her speech, but much ado about nothing from the Repubs as usual, methinks.

    What was appalling to me in yesterday’s news cycle is the McCain ad that says that Obama sponsored a bill (or something like it) that would finance sex ed for kindergartners. Sounds nuts right? That’s because the bill was about education for young children to warn them about sexual predators, not teaching five year olds about sex. The McPain campaign knows this, of course. Despicable.

    Thanks for the birthday wishes guys!

  64. 68 kateandgracie September 10, 2008 at 10:44 am

    I agree that he was using it to reference McCain’s lip (hee hee) service to change, but really being for the same old stuff. I think, though, it probably wasn’t the wisest line to use — at least not in hindsight. Anything that activates those Palin lovers into feeling like she’s being unfairly attacked is not good for Obamamama. Putting Palin on their ticket has made things really weird — all this attention on NOT being overly hard on her is a new one for a presidential election. Unfortunately, it seems, Obama needs to tread carefully.

  65. 69 kateandgracie September 10, 2008 at 10:46 am

    I also have to just hand it to the Repubs for crafting this nonissue into an issue. It’s kind of impressive, really. I mean, for them to hear that part of his speech and come back with, “Who’s been talking about lipstick lately? Clearly, they were insulting Sarah and owe her an apology.” And now we’re all talking about it. I just don’t think I would have ever thought to do that.

  66. 70 Kristin September 10, 2008 at 10:49 am

    They are sneaky. You’re right.

  67. 71 Gretchen September 10, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    I just watched Biden on Meet the Nation and can’t imagine Palin handling an interview like that . . . I feel like she is a ticking time bomb and I just hope it goes off BEFORE November . . . 🙂

  68. 72 Gretchen September 10, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    Duh — I meant to say Meet the Press . . .

  69. 73 rose September 18, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    I can’t take the drought!!

  70. 74 Sarayu September 18, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    For those of you who watched PR last night. Kenley is out of control. I’m ready to giver her a good smacking. I know she’s a good designer, but that’s just not enough. Hmph.

  71. 75 Sara H September 19, 2008 at 8:54 am

    Agree, agree on Kenley – she is beyond obnoxious, and I think I now would actually root for Suede over Kenley!

    Incidentally, I couldn’t help myself and looked at the slideshow of the 6 collections from Fashion Week. Let’s just say I had some WOW moments, on both ends of the spectrum.

    Is anyone else really, really excited to see LL Cool J as a guest judge?

  72. 76 rose September 19, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    Agreed. Kenley is totally annoying at this point.
    I’m getting sick of some of her prints too.
    Next week looks reallly good — It looks like there will be some drama.
    LL will be a nice change from the past few past judges they’ve had.


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